Siemens-Siprotec‎ 4 vs ABB 670 Comparisonl. Power Transmission and Distribution

1. SIPROTEC 4 vs. ABB IED 670 Comparison

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2. Comparison SIPROTEC 4 - ABB IED 670 Content overview

Topic
Slides
Target groups
1
Hardware concept
4
Usability
2
Functions
2
Communication
1
Fault recorder
1
Application samples
1
Summary
1
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3. Comparison SIPROTEC 4 - ABB IED 670 Aims for target groups

Target groups
Process
Aims
Sales staff
Pre sales
Support customer specification
accordingly
Fighting arguments against competitor
Fighting to get
orders
Making offers
Sales office
Find appropriate comments for
specification
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4. Comparison SIPROTEC 4 - ABB IED 670 Outline

ABB IED 670
SIPROTEC 4
Functionality or Features of SIPROTEC 4
Functionality or Features of IED 670
Benefits of SIPROTEC 4
Benefits of IED 670
Disadvantages of IED 670
Avoid in specification:
Feature of IED 670
Bring in specification:
Feature of SIPROTEC
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5. Comparison SIPROTEC 4 - ABB IED 670 HW concept (Housing)

SIPROTEC 4
ABB IED 670
IP 51 acc. IEC 60529
Complete housing for wall mounting
No further housings or cover necessary
Unpack and easy install
IP 40 at front
IP 20 (holes at top + bottom of housing)
Separate set of parts for wall mounting
Has to build in cabinets to achieve water and
dust protection of device
Difficulties for terminal access during
installation, means higher installation time
Bring in specification:
Better protection (IP 51) against environmental dust and water extends the product life cycle
Complete suitable mounting alternatives for the device ensures quick and easy installation
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6. Comparison SIPROTEC 4 - ABB IED 670 HW concept (Temperature range)

SIPROTEC 4
ABB IED 670
Temperature limit for operation from
-20°C to +70°C
Maximum temperature during operation
of +55°C, cooling via holes in the housing
Long time reliability, less aging of hardware
Cooling problem, faster aging of components,
less long time reliability
Bring in specification:
Maximum operation temperature of +70°C
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7. Comparison SIPROTEC 4 - ABB IED 670 HW concept (Insulation capability)

SIPROTEC 4
ABB IED 670
Dielectric test acc. IEC 60255-5
2.5 kV AC 50 Hz, 1 min
Dielectric test acc. IEC 60255-5
2.0 kV AC
Higher reliability against voltage discharge
due to higher insulation level
Less reliability against voltage discharge
Bring in specification:
2.5 kV AC dielectric test
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8. Comparison SIPROTEC 4 - ABB IED 670 HW concept (EMC compatibility)

SIPROTEC 4
ABB IED 670
Electrostatic discharge according IEC 6025522-2 / IEC 61000-4-2 and
fast transient disturbance according IEC
60255-22-4 / IEC 61000-4-4
Electrostatic discharge according IEC 6025522-2 / IEC 61000-4-2 and
fast transient disturbance according IEC
60255-22-4 / IEC 61000-4-4
High EMC immunity due to EMC level class 4
Less reliability against EMC as series product
has only class 3
Bring in specification:
EMC level class 4 for electrostatic discharge according IEC 60255-22-2 / IEC 61000-4-2 and fast
transient disturbance according IEC 60255-22-4 / IEC 61000-4-4
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9. Comparison SIPROTEC 4 - ABB IED 670 HW concept (Vibration test)

SIPROTEC 4
ABB IED 670
Vibration test according IEC IEC60255-21-1
class 2
Vibration test according IEC IEC60255-21-1
class 1
High operation reliability during circuit
breaker switching and earthquakes
Less operation reliability during circuit breaker
switching and earthquakes
Bring in specification:
Vibration test according IEC IEC60255-21-1 class 2
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10. Comparison SIPROTEC 4 - ABB IED 670 HW concept (Binary outputs capability)

SIPROTEC 4
ABB IED 670
Make current of 30A / 0,5 s
Make current of 30A / 0,2 s
High switching capability
Less switching capability
Bring in specification:
The binary output contacts should have at least a switching capability
of the make current of 30A / 0,5s
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11. Comparison SIPROTEC 4 - ABB IED 670 HW concept (Processor details)

SIPROTEC 4
ABB IED 670
25-80 MHz processor cycle,
depends on device
Processor board manufacturing is under full
quality control of Siemens
600 MHz processor cycle
for all types of IED 670 devices
Processor design & PCB manufacturing of
CPU board is outsourced
Low processor speed generates low thermal
burden and higher long term reliability
Decisive point is shortest tripping time
Hardware design, support and quality is full
controlled and adapted by protection
manufacturer
High processor speed generates high thermal
burden and lower long term reliability
Need for holes in housing
Hardware is not originally designed by
protection experts
Bring in specification:
Tripping time
The printed circuit boards (PCBs) should be manufactured by the vendor
Avoid in specification:
Specification of processor speed
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12. Comparison SIPROTEC 4 - ABB IED 670 HW concept (Extensibility & scalability)

Comparison SIPROTEC 4 - ABB IED 670
HW concept (Extensibility & scalability)
SIPROTEC 4
ABB IED 670
HW features have to be fixed by ordering
Later extendibility of binary I/Os and analog
inputs possible
Device configuration of SW functions can be
easily done via DIGSI
In case of changing HW features on site,
use fast commissioning service
Flexibility during engineering and installation
For configuration of later module extension,
developer tool CAP531 has to be used
Type test of this configuration at site
Bring in specification:
Each supplied device configuration is type tested
User friendly tool for device configuration
Fast commissioning service offers flexibility in case of changing or damage on site
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13. Comparison SIPROTEC 4 - ABB IED 670 Usability (Device HMI)

SIPROTEC 4
ABB IED 670
Easy change of settings via numerical keys
Free definable function keys for most
requested operations
Key switch for switching between
local/remote control mode
No numerical keys for easy change of setting
No free definable function keys, user has to
navigate through deep menu tree in any case
Normal key for switching the remoter local
access
Easy change of settings
Fast access to most requested operations
Save interlocking of remote / local control
Less security for interlocking of remote / local
control
Bring in specification:
Numerical keys for easy change of setting at front of device
Free definable function keys for easy access to most requested operations
Key switch for save interlocking of remote / local control
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14. Comparison SIPROTEC 4 - ABB IED 670 Usability (Operating program)

SIPROTEC 4
ABB IED 670
One operating program DIGSI for all devices
and generations of devices
Two operating programs for the IED 670
series requested:
- one for device configuration
- one for setting and other operations
Need for different operating SW for further
ABB device series
One tool for all devices and all tasks, saves
training costs and handling errors
The developer tool CAP531 is not user
friendly
PCM 600 operating program is not
compatible to parent product versions
Bring in specification:
One operating program for all tasks and all devices and generations of devices
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15. Comparison SIPROTEC 4 - ABB IED 670 Functions (Application)

ABB IED 670
SIPROTEC 4
Application oriented function mix can be
ordered
One device per feeder
Req. functions can be activated from a library
Better price for basic function mix
In some areas more than one device
requested
One price for the whole function package
Large activated function volume
may create timing problems
Less cost for one device for several feeders
One device for several feeders
Bring in specification:
Clear structure in case of one device per feeder for operation and service purpose
Protection devices must ensure in any case fast operating time for all protection functions
Avoid in specification:
Allocation of one device for several feeders
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16. Comparison SIPROTEC 4 - ABB IED 670 Function (Flexibility)

SIPROTEC 4
ABB IED 670
Configuration matrix, CFC logic and flexible
protection functions combines flexibility with
robust engineering design
Configuration matrix and functional library
offers wide range of applications
All tools integral part of operating tool DIGSI
For basic setting and configuration of device,
no compiling procedure necessary
Import of setting via XML- interface
Two separate engineering tools requested
In any case, a compiling procedure is
necessary
Bring in specification:
Easy engineering process with one operating tool
Easy setting due to import of setting via XML - interface
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17. Comparison SIPROTEC 4 - ABB IED 670 Communication (Protocols + topology)

SIPROTEC 4
ABB IED 670
Protocols: IEC 61850, IEC 60870-5-103.
Profibus DP. Modbus, DNP 3.0
Com physic: Ethernet FO, RS485
Integrated Ethernet switch in device supports
ring structures
Protocols: IEC 61850, IEC 60870-5-103, LON
SPA
Com physic: Ethernet FO,
No internal Ethernet switch
Protocols for utility + industrial application
Protocols for utility application only
Use of external Ethernet switch, increases
costs and reduces reliability
Bring in specification:
Reliable redundancy competes for Ethernet applications with integrated Ethernet switch
which supports redundant ring structure
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18. Comparison SIPROTEC 4 - ABB IED 670 References (IEC 61850)

SIPROTEC 4
ABB IED 670
More than 250 reference projects
Less references
High reliability during project execution and
operation
Risk during project execution and operation
Bring in specification:
A statement that the vendor sold to xx substation automation systems xx electrical companies for
xx kV which are installed for a period of xx year(s)/months and operates satisfactorily on the basis
of IEC 61850 communication protocol. The statement(s) shall include full details of the user
(name, address and project name) as well as user’s confirmation.
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19. Comparison SIPROTEC 4 - ABB IED 670 Fault records

SIPROTEC 4
ABB IED 670
Fault record contains up to 16 analog + 40
binary signals
Analysis of fault records via SIGRA or
OSCOP P
Storage time 5 sec.
Fault record contains up to 40 analog
and 96 binary signals
Collecting fault records from several feeders
(data concentrator)
Fault record transmission via IEC 60870-5103, IEC 61850 or Profibus FMS
Data export into comtrade format for use in
other evaluation tools
Fault recorder completely integrated in IEDs
Bring in specification:
Analysis tools on feeder and substation level
Central fault record management in web based systems
Avoid in specification:
Fault record content with 40 analog + 96 binary signals
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20. Comparison SIPROTEC 4 - ABB IED 670 Application sample: 1 ½ CB Arangement

7VK6
Bring in specification:
One CB protection device for each CB to avoid false tripping during service
Avoid in specification:
Common CB protection device for whole bay
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21. Comparison SIPROTEC 4 - ABB IED 670 Benefits of offered ethernet structures

Station controller with IEC 61850
Time synchronization with
SNTP and SNMP management
GPS
managed Ethernet switches
Field
Devices
Star structure
Ring structure
Bring in specification:
Ethernet ring or ethernet star structure should be supported
Redundant ring structure for optimum reliability
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22. Comparison SIPROTEC 4 - ABB IED 670 Application for GOOSE messages

Less I/O by using of GOOSE messages
I/O
Bring in specification:
Use of GOOSE messages reduce wiring and number of In/Outputs per IED
Avoid in specification:
Large number of In/Outputs per IED
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23. Comparison SIPROTEC 4 - ABB IED 670 Executive summary

ABB IED 670
SIPROTEC 4
Installed base: > 600.000 units
Separate product sales force
User friendly operating program DIGSI
Installed base : < 3.000 units in 2006
Use in ABB projects (no product sales force)
Developer tool must be used for device
configuration
Well proven Software high product quality
5 year warranty
Excellent sales & product support
4 week delivery time, fast delivery service
Siemens confidence
Market launch 2006
Due to compact design, less temperature
range and IP 30 housing
Many declared new features of IED 670
series are already available standard features
in SIPROTEC 4 since 10 years
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